Old 10-22-2009, 04:57 PM   #31
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Im planning on stepping up from loops and purchasing either spider pen or tarantula. I need pros and cons for both as in reset-ablilty versus crowd control and breakability
Well as in breakability (thread) they both use the same thread spools so they can both hold the same amount of weight.

The only REAL difference I see between them is the build and the concealment.

One is a Pen (hence spider pen) and the other is totally hidden in plain sight (I can't say more without revealing the gimmick). Personally I think the tarantual is a bit better of a thread reel and works very well. I personally have had mine for a couple weeks now and have been playing with it non stop.

Both are fantastic ITRs and Yigal makes QUALITY equipment.



P.S. You know you can put that quote in your signiture, so you don't have to keep typing it? Just click "quick links" and then "edit signiture"
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Old 10-24-2009, 07:53 PM   #32
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I have both Tarantula and Spiderpen

imo

Tarantula:
Tarantula is one of my favorite magic items!
Its extremely fragil tho'
But no worries, if you break it, send the unit to Yigal with 10 dollars(sending fee) and he will be glad to repair it for you!
I even got something nifty added :D

Spiderpen:
Its very well hidden and u have both hands free (tarantula only 1 hand)
But imo i like the tarantula more because the spiderpen requires you to touch the pen while people are watching you... (or maybe i just dont know how to use the pen... :()

I'd say, buy the tarantula!
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Old 10-25-2009, 06:37 AM   #33
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I was considering getting the tarantula but hear that there is a lot of complications like a hard to find battery, thread breaks easily and is deer, when you get it you need to fix something up with rubber cement and finally i heard that it breaks easily and then you have to go through the complications of sending it away to get fixed. Is this all true?
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Old 10-25-2009, 04:57 PM   #34
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As i said, you can just ask Yigal for repair :]
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Old 10-25-2009, 05:23 PM   #35
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I was considering getting the tarantula but hear that there is a lot of complications like a hard to find battery, thread breaks easily and is deer, when you get it you need to fix something up with rubber cement and finally i heard that it breaks easily and then you have to go through the complications of sending it away to get fixed. Is this all true?
Not at all.

The only problem I had was a dud battery but I found out that it's becuase of the testing Yigal's company does with each one. A quick stop to a local store and I had two batteries for cheap. I'm sure anywhere you can find an energizer battery you can find what you need.

As for it breaking. This is delicate and they say to read the directions and watch the DVD before picking it up. If you follow the directions and care for it properly you won't have any problems. I haven't seen any signs that may lead to the device breaking.

As for complications about sending it away. Yigal's tech support is very good about getting back to you. When I found out my battery was a dud I e-mailed the support link on his website and had a reply after the weekend. They said to purchase a new battery and if any issues arise after to ship to an address they supplied which it would be repaired or a new one would be sent (if it can not be repaired).

The thread is made from the SAME thread as the spider pen uses which has always gotten rave reviews from magicians all over. It's a good thread and very sturdy. Now for the ring levitation the weight of the ring will matter but he goes over this on the DVD.

I've never added rubber cement to it nor has anything come loose, but if something does there are CLEAR directions on what to do.

It's a good buy and for a reel I would highly suggest it.
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Old 10-25-2009, 08:19 PM   #36
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Not at all.

The only problem I had was a dud battery but I found out that it's becuase of the testing Yigal's company does with each one. A quick stop to a local store and I had two batteries for cheap. I'm sure anywhere you can find an energizer battery you can find what you need.

As for it breaking. This is delicate and they say to read the directions and watch the DVD before picking it up. If you follow the directions and care for it properly you won't have any problems. I haven't seen any signs that may lead to the device breaking.

As for complications about sending it away. Yigal's tech support is very good about getting back to you. When I found out my battery was a dud I e-mailed the support link on his website and had a reply after the weekend. They said to purchase a new battery and if any issues arise after to ship to an address they supplied which it would be repaired or a new one would be sent (if it can not be repaired).

The thread is made from the SAME thread as the spider pen uses which has always gotten rave reviews from magicians all over. It's a good thread and very sturdy. Now for the ring levitation the weight of the ring will matter but he goes over this on the DVD.

I've never added rubber cement to it nor has anything come loose, but if something does there are CLEAR directions on what to do.

It's a good buy and for a reel I would highly suggest it.
That was extremely helpful thanks so much.
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Old 11-02-2009, 09:27 PM   #37
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Tarantula,..loops,...thread,...

I don't have Tarantula yet but thread is the obvious in this illusion. I found that using straight thread a lot easier than loops. I too, had problems with the loops breaking on me and they didn't even last 3 hours. I have a way of making your own loops but the site moderator would probably frown on my sharing that with all of you. I'll just say this,..it can be done. I came up with a lot more ideas for routines using just the thread itself rather than the loops. Tarantula is next on my list to purchase. The price alone,..will tell you the power of this illusion. I wouldn't worry about,..if you have worked with threads/loops or not. You might want to purchase some thread in advance and fool around with doing some different things with it. (The possibilities are endless.) It's a no-brainer on this one. Skip the loops and buy "Taranula". If you want the loops after that then go for it. You won't. Believe me!
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I have been looking into either getting the tarantula or the loops, which would be better to start off with. I dont have much experience working with thread or similar gimmicks.
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Old 11-02-2009, 10:32 PM   #38
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II have a way of making your own loops but the site moderator would probably frown on my sharing that with all of you. I'll just say this,..it can be done.
There are a few really good sources on tying your own loops. The reason loops are a big seller is the convience of them already tied.

The main reason loops are recommended to a starter is the fact that it is a cheaper way to decided if IT is for you or not. If you have a problem with the breaking you have to find the right area of resistance, you don't get 25 feet like you do with the tarantula but you don't need that much also. The other thing is the weight. Becuase you are still learning with IT breakage will occur until you understand how much you can put the IT though.

The truth is the tarantula is expensive. It may not seem like a lot to other people but compaired to some other learning materials out there it's a good chunk of change. This is certainly expensive to "find out if IT work is for you" or even if PK has a spot in your routines. So instead people refere you to loops so you have a better understanding of IT such as it's limitations, possibilities and other charactoristics. Plus loops are WAY easier to use, in my opinion, instead of IT reels or hooks ups.
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Old 11-03-2009, 01:19 PM   #39
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be aware of your lighting situation.

Check the lighting in the room before you perform the effect. It's the same with any IT. My friend and I perform for each other all the time. We sit around, showing each other whatever effects we can do. We've done a show together before too. At said party, the IT was exposed. It was only a fraction of a second before I told him to "go to the shadows, it's creepier that way". A subtle way of saying, "GET OUT OF THAT LIGHT!!!". Overall, it's a great effect, just mind your lighting situation. Make your own shadow if you have to.
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Old 11-03-2009, 05:55 PM   #40
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I don't have Tarantula yet but thread is the obvious in this illusion. I found that using straight thread a lot easier than loops. I too, had problems with the loops breaking on me and they didn't even last 3 hours. I have a way of making your own loops but the site moderator would probably frown on my sharing that with all of you. I'll just say this,..it can be done.
Maybe should respond in the Loops forum:

http://forums.ellusionist.com/showth...ht=tying+loops
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Old 11-07-2009, 06:01 PM   #41
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Does the tarantula require any items like spider thread, spider pen, or magicians wax?
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Old 11-07-2009, 09:39 PM   #42
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magicians wax i believe but some comes with the Tarantula and its cheap too
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Old 11-11-2009, 02:09 PM   #43
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I think it is expensive due to its size. It costs more to design and manufacture something that is smaller.
I actually priced out the parts and taking into consideration that if I were making this I would follow the rule of thumb to charge double my cost to sell it, it is actually a bit cheaper than I would sell it for.
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