Old 11-07-2009, 03:47 AM   #1
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A question about svengali decks.

Is their a difference between a ghost svengali deck, black tiger svengali and viper svengali. Like do you perform different tricks with them or are they all the same in that way?
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Old 11-07-2009, 04:05 AM   #2
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Is their a difference between a ghost svengali deck, black tiger svengali and viper svengali. Like do you perform different tricks with them or are they all the same in that way?
They're all the same effect.

Svengali decks don't hold up to audience inspection *at all*, you would probably be happier with a mirage deck. At least mirage deck is presentable to the audience, although you can't hand over either of them.
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Old 11-07-2009, 05:09 AM   #3
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Is their a difference between a ghost svengali deck, black tiger svengali and viper svengali. Like do you perform different tricks with them or are they all the same in that way?

but you can always do one or more deck changes so they might not know that you had a trick deck at all that you were using in your act.
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Old 11-07-2009, 09:13 AM   #4
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They're all the same effect.

Svengali decks don't hold up to audience inspection *at all*, you would probably be happier with a mirage deck. At least mirage deck is presentable to the audience, although you can't hand over either of them.
Why should you give a deck out to be inspected? Rather why should the deck be the focus in an effect? There are many many ways you can use a Svengali deck as just a tool for an effect. I use it for one of my effects so don't let the fact that it is not examinable put you off. The principle in play is wonderful.

And just to add to what has already been said, the only difference between the decks is the design.

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Old 11-07-2009, 09:35 AM   #5
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Why should you give a deck out to be inspected? Rather why should the deck be the focus in an effect? There are many many ways you can use a Svengali deck as just a tool for an effect. I use it for one of my effects so don't let the fact that it is not examinable put you off. The principle in play is wonderful.

And just to add to what has already been said, the only difference between the decks is the design.

Cheers,

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I personally love svengali decks myself and use them too. With a solid presentation you can get away with a lot, you just have to choose where you want the spectators focus.

Svengali decks are all made the same way no matter what "type" of cards they are. As AJ said they are a tool to get you where you need to be.
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Old 11-07-2009, 02:00 PM   #6
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Why should you give a deck out to be inspected? Rather why should the deck be the focus in an effect? There are many many ways you can use a Svengali deck as just a tool for an effect. I use it for one of my effects so don't let the fact that it is not examinable put you off. The principle in play is wonderful.

And just to add to what has already been said, the only difference between the decks is the design.

Cheers,

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Around here Svengali decks are incredibly well known. The local grocery store sells them at the check out isle for $4. Nearly everyone I know got a deck for christmas when they were a kid.

You can still get away with using a Svengali deck, but your presentation has to be impeccable. No one has ever seen a mirage or pop eyed popper deck. You can handle both of those a lot more naturally, even spreading the cards face up on the table.

A mirage deck does everything the Svengali does, but still allows you to spread and fan the cards. I don't understand why more magicians don't use them, there's no downside.
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