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    Playing Card Difference: Cambric, Linoid, Air-Cushion. (info)

    EDIT* Just bringing this old thread back. Someone was asking about this earlier, and I remembered I posted this a long time ago.

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    OK. Alot of you guys do ask, and wonder about "Playing Card Difference". The different finishes anyway. There are different finishes on the following top 3 brand cards. Bicycle-Air-Cusion, Tally-Ho-Linoid, Bee-Cambric. So I gathered some basic information for you guys, to kind of give you an idea of the difference. Ok, this is not a Rant, Rave, or Essay. These are just some basic facts that I have gathered through research.

    Bicycle: Air-Cushion Finish.
    And "Air-Cushion" Is a "pocket" of air, used to absorb shock.
    An "Air-Cushion" is used in most trucks, and other vehicles.
    For example, when a truck is climbing a mountain,
    it uses shocks to help absorb the "Shock" of the bouncing.
    This is where Air-Cushion comes into play.
    The air cusioning helps the shocks to absorb the "Bounce",
    and gives the vehicle extra spring. ( For big hills, etc. )

    Same goes for Bicycle Cards.
    They Bicycle cards are manufactured with an air-cushion.
    If you notice in a new pack when first opened,
    you can see groups of 10 cards at a time, divided
    with a slightly different colour in the breaks. This is the air-cushion.
    All this does is give the Bicycles that extra "spring"
    when performing magic, and/or flourishes.
    Tally-Ho's and bicycle are pretty equal in quality however.
    We will get to that.
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    Tally-Ho Playing Cards: Linoid Finish.
    Basically what a "Linoid" Finish is. Is a life-extender.
    It adds an extra coat onto the cards to keep them from
    getting sticky. It also holds the quality to where fans can
    be executed more easily. This is why in a new pack of Tally-Ho's,
    the cards a extremly stiff. This is caused by the Linoid finish.
    Tally-Ho's, like Bicycles. Are GREAT for using in card magic.
    ( Overall opinion from magicians ) They are pretty much equal
    in quality. The Tally-Ho's will most likley last longer,
    whilst the Bicycles will spring better.
    ( general statment with slight opinion )
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    Bee Playing cards: Cambric Finish.
    Cambric is a cotton like matirial that can also be found
    in very expensive bed-sheets. Cambric is atually a "Woven" cotten.
    If you notice the design in Bee playing cards,
    it is a Woven design. This is because of the Cambric finish.
    I am not saying that Bee's are made of cotten,
    I am saying it uses the matirial, and is woven the same way.
    This is why ( if you notice ) Bee's seem to be soft when shuffling.
    Cambric allows cards to be bent more, without giving to much-
    damage to the cards. The Cambric in my opinion seems
    to absorb alot pressure on the cards,
    to make for a better shuffle.
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    This is just some general information that I have gathered, to try and help answer some questions. I hope that you all enjoy this information. If you find any information to be mis-leading, or false. Please PM me and I will correct it.
    If you have any further information that you would like to add. Please PM me, and I will add it to this thread and give you credit for it.

    THANKS!

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    once again, nice post. Ive always wondered why the bees felf softer. Another cool bit of info, my name is on the tally ho cards. woo! just spelled a little bit differently. i thought that was pretty nifty.
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    Quote Originally Posted by themystifier
    once again, nice post. Ive always wondered why the bees felf softer. Another cool bit of info, my name is on the tally ho cards. woo! just spelled a little bit differently. i thought that was pretty nifty.
    Thanks man. So...Your name is Linoid? Or Linoide? ( You said spelled differently)
    Or is your name Tally? Mabye Ho? Hehe...Just kidding with you. I honestly don't know what your last name is...

    Thanks for the comments =)

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    Good Thread Damian, i always wonderd what the Air-Cusion was, thanks again.
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    Quote Originally Posted by AdamH
    Good Thread Damian, i always wonderd what the Air-Cusion was, thanks again.
    Glad I could help you adam. I am still looking for more information. The more I find, the more I will post.

    Thanks again,

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    Extremely well written, well gathered and very Informative. I didn't know that about my Bee's, Well I shall now respect them even more. That reminds me, I need to pick up a 12 pack of them. Cheers Damo

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sonicstabber
    extremely well writeen, well gathered and very Informative. I didn't know that about my Bee's, Well I shall now respect them even more. That reminds me, I need to pick up a 12 pack of them. Cheers Damo

    Eddie
    Haha, thanks Eddie mah boy. Well, I think I got the right information on the Bee's. I did research, and basically how I described in the thread above, is what Bee's are. Strange if you ask me. But I too shall respect my Bee's even more. I should be a Bee spokes-person. I just convinced you to by 12 packs! Yippy. lol...

    Thanks again man,

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    Quote Originally Posted by DangerD205
    Thanks man. So...Your name is Linoid? Or Linoide? ( You said spelled differently)
    Or is your name Tally? Mabye Ho? Hehe...Just kidding with you. I honestly don't know what your last name is...

    Thanks for the comments =)

    ~Damian~
    haha its on the box and ace of spades where it says A. Dougherty. Mine is spelled Doherty. Close, but still cool.
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    Tally's are better then bikes IMO, but Laypeople don''t really know about them where I am from, and they are extremely hard to find around where I live(NY), so I am stuck with Bikes.
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    I know that is is a little late (three years) :). But great job on that post, I learned a lot!

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    I've just posted this in another thread, but here it is again...

    Tally and Bikes are printed on identical stock, and use an identical finish. Linoid is Air-cushion, they are exactly the same.

    http://www.elusionist.com/forums/sho...1&postcount=39

    I believe the Cambric finish is also the same, though I'm having trouble finishing any solid evidence on that.

    The reason Tally-Ho cards are supposedly better quality is because they are produced in a significantly smaller quantity allowing for better quality control.

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    Quote Originally Posted by huruey View Post
    The reason Tally-Ho cards are supposedly better quality is because they are produced in a significantly smaller quantity allowing for better quality control.
    Wow, I never really thought of that. Good point!

    As for the link, is that true? Linoid and Air-Cushion being the same thing?

    I do recall a thread a long time ago talking about this this. It was a huge discussion, but I thought it was really, really interesting. Devo even posted in it. Someone said the exact same thing thing: That Linoid and Air are the same thing.

    I wish I could find it but the search-engine isn't all that accurate unless you know the exact title of the thread. Which I forget :)

    I might do a little more research.

    However, I do not think that cambric finish is the same thing because... Well how many magicians do you see using Bee's?

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    Quote Originally Posted by ..:Z:.. View Post
    Wow, I never really thought of that. Good point!

    As for the link, is that true? Linoid and Air-Cushion being the same thing?

    I do recall a thread a long time ago talking about this this. It was a huge discussion, but I thought it was really, really interesting. Devo even posted in it. Someone said the exact same thing thing: That Linoid and Air are the same thing.

    I wish I could find it but the search-engine isn't all that accurate unless you know the exact title of the thread. Which I forget :)

    I might do a little more research.

    However, I do not think that cambric finish is the same thing because... Well how many magicians do you see using Bee's?

    ..:Z:..
    Many magicians do not use Bees due to the fact that they don't have a white border. It is more obvious if a card is face up in a face down deck, for example.

    I have just managed to find the actual thread I was looking for earlier by Nate River.
    http://www.elusionist.com/forums/showthread.php?t=69103

    There's a lot of discussion there if you want to know more.

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    Wow, great post. Thanks for the info. :)

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    Thanks! That was a great post. I was gonna started a thread asking what Air-finish was! Thanks a lot.
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